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  • 8:32 am on February 28, 2019 Permalink | Reply  

    Live Korean viewer comments during the Hanoi summit 

    I watched a bit the US-DPRK Summit of yesterday, towards the end, after people had left for the expanded meeting and reporters were wondering why they were getting delayed beyond their original schedule, until the no deal debacle that followed soon thereafter.

    I watched it on JTBC, one of Korea’s post-media reform (2009) TV channel on their YouTube livestream. Unlike last year, they enabled viewer comments (I don’t remember exactly but last year in Singapore I think they didn’t enable it?) 19,000 viewers were watching at that point. I thought the lively live comments were pretty interesting.

    First, there was the continuous political spam of people both in support and opposition of Korea’s Democratic Party and the current president Moon. These looked almost like copypastas given how long they were, with a healthy dose of seemingly typed ones as well. Things like “Moon is a commie, just give the country to Jong Un ee” (against Moon), “Abe equals Park geunhye equals the Liberty Democratic Party equals Hong Joon pyo equals Choi Soon Sil equals extreme right equals Abe Shinjo equals sellouts” (for…?), “Just send the army and conquer North Korea” (against), some rants on current political developments in South Korea, etc.

    The political spam was not enough to overwhelm non-spammy comments, who were typing what they felt or their critique. A lot of people sounded pretty angry on both sides.

    When the broadcast consisted of four panel members from JTBC, who had flown to Hanoi and set up a mini outdoor “studio” atop the roof of some tall building, overlooking Hanoi’s city skylines, in a manner similar to how Son Suk Hee had flown to Singapore and set up a similar outdoor studio last year. So instead of having the panelists comment from the indoor studio, they would be quasi “reporting”, “from the front lines”. Maybe it would also help with the 1-2 second awkward netwotk comms delays that happen when the studio panel is trying to talk to the reporter from the field? Some of the viewers were a bit perplexed by this unusual choice of venue.

    People sounded pretty hopeful in the beginning, saying things like “well I have a hunch that things will be spectacularly good”, “you know what? the peace declaration is already a done deal. SK and NK declared it last year in April, China declared it too, now all that is left today is the US and North Korea”, or asking other viewers “hey, i just came in, what’s going on? And what’s with the view of the empty room?”. The panelists didn’t seem to be monitoring the YouTube comment (almost no TV channel does that yet) but the viewers would talk to each other. Praising Moon, insluting Moon, etc.

    Viewers were also upset with the panelists, as some of the panelists apparently had a cynical tone towards the whole event. “Hey who is that guy panelist, he keeps talking about the summnit as if wishing ill to it”, “these panelists, man, they talk about this as if it wasw sone random country unreklated to us”, “god i hate this panelist”, “well, this can’t be helkped because JTBC felt they needed to represent “all political spectrums”, “Panelist X is so talkative now that he’s not with Son Suk HEe (the CEO of JTBC and renowned liberal/progressive commentator – Son Suk Hee led the panel in the Singapore summit’s broadcast)

    As the delays started coming in, people started wondering “hey what is this delay about”, “isn’t a delay a good thing? it means that people got inmmnerse in the negotiation talks, there is serious talk going on”, “I’m not sure this is a good thing”. Or even “This is the usual Trump surprise show thing – they want to put some tension first, then surprise their audience with an unexpected good outcome”. Panelists were also worried and were starting to take guesses on the reason and asking reporters on the field “do you see ANY sign of anything, cars moving, white house staff said anything, any of the non-korean reporters there saying anything, what is the mood in the press pool”

    Then the news broke that a CNN reporter had tweeted “the expanded conference lunch may get cancelled and there may be no signing ceremony, just heard from the white house”, which drove panelists and viewers even more nervous. One panelist remarked “hey, isn’t it disrespectful to diplomatic customs to give any word about the negotiations when the negotiators are still in the room talking to each other?”. Viewers were worried. Some were typing frantically “Guys, don’t believe the media. Only trust the primary sources. All of this media blabla is bullshit”. There was a lot of chat throughout and peoples’ chats were only visibile for 0.5 second before it would slide up wioth the new chat. So sometimes people would copy their chat and paste it multiple times (like every 2 seconds or something) to try to be read by more viewers. The above “don’t trust the media” was one of them. The pro Moon and anti Moon spam was still mixed in with the chat. Some of the political spam was evolving “Omg, President Roh please come back from the dead and save us!” (I assume mocking tone), “Moon is screwed now. Impeach Moon!”

    Throughout the next 20 minutesthe panelists frantically tried to get any information they could get from all their sources – checking pasts statements from KJU and DJT, asking repoirters they had places around the hotel for any movement, any mood from other reporters, anything unusual, was security moving in any direction, etc.

    Then it was finally announced that the signing ceremony was cancelled, that both presidents had left the hotel, and it was unclear whether the press conference was happenning. News also broke that there had been no deal. Vieweres could see in the screen that some reporters were pakcing up ready to leave the press conferenhce location.

    Then Trump showed up for his press conference. And as he talked through the talking point and answered reporters questions, the viewers just exploded. Korean viewers are used to watching highly nuanced press conferences when it’s a delicate topic, where everything is the topic of analysis, by viewers and pundits alike: what is the color of the tie, is the speaker agitated or calm, do they look relaxed or upset, what word was chosen as the opening sentence, what types of key words are emerging, etc. I guess some of the viewers were watching Trump speak live, unedited, for the first time. “Holy shit he’s talking US domestic politics”, “here he goes bragging again”, “just get to the point”, “What does Venezuela have anythinhg to do with this”. Viewers were very upset that Trump kept mentioning Abe Shinjo, since that would seem to indicate Abe had orchestrtated this outcome. “Wow, Abe had this much power? damn”.

    Viewers were also surprised at how fast the Korean translation was. There was both a word-by-word typed interpretation going on in the screen, whiel also a spoken interpreter was talking at bullet speed.

    More later..

  • 7:01 pm on February 17, 2019 Permalink | Reply  

    one disadvantage to watching stuff with captions is that they spoil the song that starts playing real low volume a full 10 seconds before you can identify the main melodic line

  • 8:51 pm on February 6, 2019 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Designated Survivor,   

    I was feeling sick and going over my past reddit posts just to kill time until it’s time to sleep (to not mess up my sleep schedule), and found this post from a year ago that I think still makes sense.


    After 15 episodes in, Designated Survivor is feeling like a comical satire of the Trump administration. In some parts, there are parallel connections, and in some others, if we were to get inside Trump supporters’ minds, this is how they would imagine themselves – fighting the good fight to protect an embattled, post-apocalyptic America. In the 2000 movie The Cell, detectives enter a psychopath’s mind, materialized into a virtual-reality-of-sorts through a machine, where there are horrific depictions of their depraved thoughts, but in some scenes also some of them are represented beautifully because that’s how the psychopath feels about it internally. Now apply that mechanism to Trump and their supporters.

    For starters, he was never elected to public office prior to the presidency, and only became president due to a technicality. His swearing-in ceremony was the “largest in history”, and those present really believed in the legitimacy of his presidency.

    He has led a holy crusade against the ravaging mainstream media, who keeps running hit pieces on dear leader. The press secretary is misspeaking-machine-on-wheels (phase 1) and then improves and just outright lies to everyone on everything (phase 2) (Although for Trump it’s Phase 2 first)

    Let’s go on..


  • 10:06 pm on January 28, 2019 Permalink | Reply  

    I recently noticed and was bewildered that the coloring and notation of Western Avenue in LA changed to that of a highway, with the yellow color and the numbering “258” – looked it up and it turns out to be something known as an “unconstructed state highway” – “their routings have been defined by state law, but no route has been adopted by the California Department of Transportation” – whatever that means.

  • 3:31 am on January 27, 2019 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Electoral College   

    If we gotta rig the vote, lets rig it by sunshine, not race 

    Since someone was bringing up Iowa in the thread:

    1. There are more poor people in California than in Iowa.
    2. I haven’t looked it up, but I would wager that California has more, and if not at least comparable, numbers of farmers as Iowa farmers.
    3. Iowa also has its share of major cities and a (three?) metropolis, where people live in relative comfort and in this so-called “coastal elite life” – although granted, such cities are fewer in number, and comparatively smaller, than in California.
    4. The electoral college equally screws up a bunch of these “small” states as it does other “large” states, while giving an edge to relatively large purple states (large, relatively speaking, when considering the totality of purple states) like Iowa or Pennsylvania.
    5. There is one sure thing Iowa has more of than California: the percentage of white people. This, despite the increasing influx of people of color and immigrants into the state.

    Of course, I must confess that I have maliciously concealed one crucial factor in this comparison – California gets way more sunlight than Iowa. Now THIS is a vote manipulation I can get behind, if we insist on this whole “helping out those in need by making their votes count more or less” thing. Make votes count proportionally inverse to the median temperature, at the county level. The colder the region, the more your vote counts. This way, everyone wins – even San Francisco would have the satisfaction of having beat their rival Los Angeles. Los Angeles can sacrifice for the greater good.

    Image: File:ElectoralCollege2016.svg, CC BY-SA

    Image: File:ElectoralCollege2008.svg, CC BY-SA

    Full Disclaimer: This post was typed while staying in Chicago in a 0 Degrees Fahrenheit January. My fingers are freezing and I can’t breathe. (0 F is -17 Degrees Celsius for you normies)

  • 10:39 pm on December 1, 2018 Permalink | Reply  

    this is the first time i hear of Prager U but it seems they make among the most easily rebutted right wing arguments on the internet – after youtube comments. not sure if they are a menace for giving the right wing something to link, or a blessing for giving too many people the worst argumentative tools.

    How PragerU Lies to You

    Watch this video on YouTube.
    • Yongho Kim 김용호 11:46 pm on December 1, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      every video in this channel is bonkers. i’m signing up on patreon for this guy. this is the first time i use patreon.

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